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    <title>TIGSource: Interview: Two of the Most Hated Game Creators Alive</title>
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      <title>Interview: Two of the Most Hated Game Creators Alive</title>
      <description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/tigsource/503929914/" title="Photo Sharing"&gt;&lt;img src="http://farm1.static.flickr.com/220/503929914_e0c932b680_m.jpg" width="240" height="191" hspace="10" vspace="5" align="right" alt="V-Tech Rampage" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;


	&lt;p&gt;Destructoid has &lt;a href="http://www.destructoid.com/virtual-school-shootings-interviewing-two-of-the-most-hated-game-creators-alive-31610.phtml"&gt;an interview&lt;/a&gt; with Danny Ledonne, creator of Super Columbine Massacre &lt;span class="caps"&gt;RPG&lt;/span&gt;, and Ryan Lambourn, creator of V-Tech Shooting.&lt;/p&gt;


	&lt;p&gt;I find it interesting that Ledonne is very articulate and Lambourn is&amp;#8230; well, he did it for the &amp;#8220;lulz.&amp;#8221;  Neither game is a success, in my opinion, from a gameplay perspective &lt;em&gt;or&lt;/em&gt; a social perspective.  What they&amp;#8217;ve proved is that games can create discussion and cause controversy&amp;#8230; is that something that needs to be proven?&lt;/p&gt;


	&lt;p&gt;I find this screenshot from V-Tech Rampage to be extremely ironic.&lt;/p&gt;


	&lt;p&gt;&lt;em&gt;(Thanks, Felan, for the heads-up!)&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 18 May 2007 19:25:00 +0000</pubDate>
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      <title>"Interview: Two of the Most Hated Game Creators Alive" by Cube</title>
      <description>&lt;p&gt;&amp;#8220;I liked Super Columbine Massacre RPG a lot. It made me cry. It wasn&#8217;t fun in the classic sense but it was a great pice of art. Up until the hell scene where I turned it off&amp;#8221;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Holy crap I have a doppleganger.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Seriously, that&amp;#8217;s EXACTLY what I was going to say.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 25 May 2007 02:28:30 +0000</pubDate>
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      <title>"Interview: Two of the Most Hated Game Creators Alive" by Exthornt</title>
      <description>&lt;p&gt;So, Lambourn set out with the lofty goal of being a douchebag, and succeded extremely well.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Then again, it ain&amp;#8217;t that hard.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sun, 20 May 2007 06:46:47 +0000</pubDate>
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      <title>"Interview: Two of the Most Hated Game Creators Alive" by Radix</title>
      <description>&lt;p&gt;One of the commenters on the article has a good point in the suggestion that Ledonne probably made SCMRPG for very similar reasons to Lambourn, though without the superfluous &lt;em&gt;deliberate&lt;/em&gt; offensiveness. The difference being that the Ledonne was always an arrogant fuck ready to play the &amp;#8220;artist&amp;#8221; card if things went the right way. When he starts saying things like
&amp;#8220;the game is uncredited because I didn&amp;#8217;t want the design to end with my authorship&amp;#8221;
I start wishing firewalls came with bullshit filters.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Lambourn on the other hand never any such intention, though I doubt he has the maturity to pull it off. He&amp;#8217;s been genuine from the beginning, and people knew what the deal was from his early 4chan posts (which I wish I&amp;#8217;d saved, but I dismissed it at the time as ordinary newgrounds tripe). The guy doesn&amp;#8217;t amuse me, but at least we&amp;#8217;re spared the self-aggrandising essays.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sun, 20 May 2007 04:26:42 +0000</pubDate>
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      <title>"Interview: Two of the Most Hated Game Creators Alive" by Sergio</title>
      <description>&lt;p&gt;It seems like Danny Ledonne has almost started a movement of sorts&amp;#8230; crappy game tie-ins to tragic events may one day be as prevalent as crappy game tie-ins to big budget movies.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Although&amp;#8230; Ledonne may not be the one who started this movement. But maybe he popularized it.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sun, 20 May 2007 02:33:45 +0000</pubDate>
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      <title>"Interview: Two of the Most Hated Game Creators Alive" by OrR</title>
      <description>&lt;p&gt;I liked Super Columbine Massacre RPG a lot. It made me cry. It wasn&amp;#8217;t fun in the classic sense but it was a great pice of art. Up until the hell scene where I turned it off.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sat, 19 May 2007 18:42:21 +0000</pubDate>
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      <title>"Interview: Two of the Most Hated Game Creators Alive" by Zenith</title>
      <description>&lt;p&gt;yeah sorry, was trying to do a face emotic, =_= works&lt;/p&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sat, 19 May 2007 16:27:07 +0000</pubDate>
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      <title>"Interview: Two of the Most Hated Game Creators Alive" by Xenu Fan</title>
      <description>&lt;p&gt;Anybody who made a game about killing Scientologists just about anywhere would get some kind of legal trouble on their asses.  If you don&amp;#8217;t know why, you don&amp;#8217;t know Scientology.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sat, 19 May 2007 13:59:49 +0000</pubDate>
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      <title>"Interview: Two of the Most Hated Game Creators Alive" by someloser</title>
      <description>&lt;p&gt;So wait, if either of these guys got about 1/1000th of the publicity, lived in canada and made games about killing scientologists they&amp;#8217;d get cops to their houses? If neither of these guys got cops up their ass in america I&amp;#8217;d find it hiliarious.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sat, 19 May 2007 08:45:07 +0000</pubDate>
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      <title>"Interview: Two of the Most Hated Game Creators Alive" by Underwhelmed</title>
      <description>&lt;p&gt;I know that Ledonne says he did it for art, and Lambourn says he did it for attention, but really, Lambourn is the only one telling the truth here.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Both of these guys are attention whores, Ledonne is just a little more articulate and willing to pretend it was for some other reason. &lt;/p&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sat, 19 May 2007 08:17:20 +0000</pubDate>
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      <description>&lt;p&gt;if he did it for the lulz, then he is excused. Ledonne is just a moron.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sat, 19 May 2007 06:59:12 +0000</pubDate>
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      <title>"Interview: Two of the Most Hated Game Creators Alive" by penumbro</title>
      <description>&lt;p&gt;And here I thought they were going to interview Peter Molyneux and John Romero.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sat, 19 May 2007 06:00:47 +0000</pubDate>
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      <title>"Interview: Two of the Most Hated Game Creators Alive" by Dr. Rotwang</title>
      <description>&lt;p&gt;I think &amp;#8220;V-Tech Shooting&amp;#8221; is really successfully. Lambourn got a lot of attention, he pissed people off a lot and had lots of fun. He wasn&amp;#8217;t even trying to do anything else. As an act of pure trolling you must admit he&amp;#8217;s been really successful. He probably got more than he expected.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Ledonne, on the other hand, failed because he tried to make something that exceeded his abilities.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sat, 19 May 2007 04:08:22 +0000</pubDate>
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      <title>"Interview: Two of the Most Hated Game Creators Alive" by crackers</title>
      <description>&lt;p&gt;If a quick scribble on the back of a pack of smokes was considered a piece of art then both these games are art.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sat, 19 May 2007 01:22:13 +0000</pubDate>
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      <title>"Interview: Two of the Most Hated Game Creators Alive" by negative zero</title>
      <description>&lt;p&gt;both games suck&amp;#8230;and you don&amp;#8217;t have to play em to figure that out.  wat i don&amp;#8217;t understand is why touch upon such tasteless issues, or should i say, represent such issues in a tasteless way, even for the sake of interpretation or art.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;it&amp;#8217;s like serving shit in a restaurant.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sat, 19 May 2007 00:30:58 +0000</pubDate>
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      <title>"Interview: Two of the Most Hated Game Creators Alive" by Derek</title>
      <description>&lt;p&gt;=_=?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sat, 19 May 2007 00:12:25 +0000</pubDate>
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      <description></description>
      <pubDate>Sat, 19 May 2007 00:09:26 +0000</pubDate>
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      <description>&lt;p&gt;Hey maybe we should all just laugh, since it was all just for the lulz, that&amp;#8217;s what he wanted!
Jack Thompson included,
Jack: lol u guyz&lt;/p&gt;

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    &lt;p&gt;_&amp;lt;&lt;/p&gt;
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      <pubDate>Sat, 19 May 2007 00:08:53 +0000</pubDate>
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      <title>"Interview: Two of the Most Hated Game Creators Alive" by Shabadage</title>
      <description>&lt;p&gt;Oi&amp;#8217;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Fucking /b/tards.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 18 May 2007 22:42:13 +0000</pubDate>
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      <title>"Interview: Two of the Most Hated Game Creators Alive" by Derek</title>
      <description>&lt;p&gt;Well said, I completely agree!&lt;/p&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 18 May 2007 22:13:34 +0000</pubDate>
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      <description>&lt;p&gt;Very interesting interviews.  I haven&amp;#8217;t played either games but it&amp;#8217;s pretty clear that very different motivations went into them.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;It&amp;#8217;s stupid to criticize Lambourn for making a game that gives Jack Thompson fodder.  Why is the gaming community using Jack Thompson as a barometer for whether something has gone too far?  Thompson is fucking nuts and I think it&amp;#8217;s pretty ridiculous for the gaming community to police itself for things that might be used by him.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Certainly one can come to their own conclusion that Lambourn&amp;#8217;s game is a steaming pile of shit but for god&amp;#8217;s sake, don&amp;#8217;t hate it just because it&amp;#8217;s going to make Jack Thompson angry.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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