8bit killer
Posted by Derek Yu Tue, 08 Jul 2008 16:50:00 GMT
Low-poly lovers rejoice! 8bit killer is a NES-style FPS made in Game Maker that features a 64-color palette, 32×32 pixel textures, and an energetic chiptune soundtrack. The game pays wonderful homage to the platform shooters that inspired it, employing linear levels along with the Wolfenstein-esque maze levels. It works pretty well.
There are, I believe, 4 areas in total, with 3 stages in each area, with every 3rd stage being a boss battle. Six weapons. The variety of enemies and textures in the areas I’ve played so far is surprising.
8bit killer is a very fun and polished game. I also love the look of Locomalito’s current projects, a platform game named Grialia and a Gradius-inspired shoot ‘em up named Hydorah. They’re definitely a developer to watch out for!
(Note: the game uses standard WASD + mouse FPS controls. Press “Enter” at any time to toggle between 1x and 2x resolution.)
TIGdb: Entry for 8bit killer
Wow looks nice! Downloading now. :p
Awesome Game! This really rocks! The only problem I had with the game is that it doesn’t fully support keyboard controls which I like using in these types of games.
Also, the game glitched for me when fighting the second boss. It froze after I died.
Way better than Crysis
Great find Derek!
I really like this game, but I really don’t like that the music is a bunch of uncompressed wav files totaling about 20MB while the game itself is only about 3MB. Chiptunes are great because you can fit a great deal of music in a very small file. Even if some sort of tracker format was not feasible the music should have at least been compressed in some way.
Boo, Game Maker has an -actual- chiptune extension. http://gmc.yoyogames.com/?showtopic=279710
I was thinking about making this kind of thing, but never did. :(
Nooo theres a bug =( I killed the sewer boss as one of its tentacles was on me, so after I killed it I was frozen in place, destined to look at that key for all eternity.
Frickin’ sweet!
The game play/balance is actually a lot better than Wolfenstein, IMHO… All the enemy attacks are visible and avoidable, but the limited range on your basic guns forces you to get in close, rather than just sniping them from range like Doom imps. And the timing is old school and tricky as well, since your bullets don’t travel instantly, but most enemies are briefly stunned when you shoot them.
The difficulty level is satisfying; Having three continues helps, though I am not crazy about monsters that suddenly spawn behind you. And that some secrets aren’t accessible unless you open doors in a certain order… But the game is hard enough that you’ll probably get a chance to open them during your second or third attempt. ;-)
Ugh. Yeah, it seems that enemy hand-to-hand attacks can push you into walls, which is a “quit and lose all progress” effect in a game with no Save function or Suicide button. :-(
Which is a shame, because otherwise it’s awesome.
I really like the pixel art, and the gameplay, timing and movement are spot-on.
Too easy but it’s a darling to look at.
Definitely one of the best game I’ve played in ages.
How do you get out of the beginning room?
Never mind I figured out
Hasn’t the low-resolution, low-color depth bitmap graphics BS gotten old yet? There are other antiquated visual styles that haven’t seen any resurgence at all. For instance, flat-shaded polygons, which brings to mind the irrelevance of Yu’s opening words. Low-poly lovers like myself won’t find anything here.
Anyway, evaluated solely on the merits of its mechanics, the game’s alright. Certainly it at least tries to set itself apart.
I see what you mean about the “low-poly” thing… but I feel like the graphic style this game employs is more of a new thing rather than a resurgence. Even the old 3d games used higher-res textures than this.
Also, other than flat-shaded polys, what other antiquated visual styles are you thinking of? The only ones that come to mind for me are FMV and digitized graphics…
Ooooh, I love flat shaded polygons. Time for Virus!
I can’t wait to play this… music by RushJet1!
Derek you’re a know it all ,when is rotoscoping going to make a comeback?
Derek: fair enough, this is all subjective. But the way I see it the difference between 8 Bit Killer’s style and, say, Catacombs 3-D is minor and quantitative (i.e. higher res and lower color depth in the latter).
Other visual styles? There’s vectors, or as applied in 3D, wireframe graphics. And pre-rendered 3D (not that that calls for resurgence IMO). crackers’ pisstake fails on account of The Last Express. Good point, when IS rotoscoping gonna make a comeback? There are voxels, although they’ve been getting more popular lately. Those are the ones I can think of, and I’m hardly an expert on game visuals…
The Last Express came out just over ten years ago, that’s pretty old so it is about time it started to resurface again. It was a valid comment but expressed in an unserious way because being serious all the time is boring.
One of the reasons the lowpoly/ low-res aesthetic is so popular is because of the speed at which you can create content and the low barrier of entry. The higher the resolution of your assets, the more reasources it takes to produce them.
That aside, I think that lowpoly/8-bit is a really great look.
^ True, but the same could be said of low-poly flat-shaded stuff. And of vector graphics (format issues and engine support notwithstanding).
VERY nice looking.
Was easy until I used all 3 continues in the same spot in the third world :<
Really enjoyed it.
Well, well, well. This look excellent! I love the old-school feel of these types of games. I’d best try this out now.
Completed it without dying a single game, and I love it! I want more!
Awesome game. It really feels like the fps capcom or konami would have made back in the days.
I can’t figure out how to switch weapons or how to not skip the dialogue.
Space - Skips dialogue Ctrl - Fires weapon Alt - Opens Doors Z & X - Strafe Arrow Keys - move Enter - Switch between screen sizes
Also, moving with z & x is significantly faster than moving forward or backward, or even turning. This seems unbalanced. Either Z & X need to be nerfed to be slower or the rest of the movement keys need to be buffed to bring themselves more in line with Z & X
I just use WASD to move, Mouse to look/shoot/open doors. And space to open the gun menu.
I couldn’t change guns, though, at least, not until I plugged in my mouse, then I got a cursor.
And then I beat the game. Overall it’s easy, but forward/backward could be as fast as going to the side. It feels so sluggish when not strafing.
As for the game itself, it’s extremely well done. The only complaint I have is the lack of minimap or perhaps a save between levels/chapters.
I suppose I could’ve gotten out paper and mapped, but I think we’re past the point of needing that in games these days. Even the Etrian Odyssey games, while they require you to make your own map, give you the tools right there.
As it was, I ended up not searching everywhere in the last two stages, so I’m sure I missed a health or ammo upgrade and I definitely missed the last gun.
A++ would play again.
Potsticker - click the mouse during the cutscenes to advance dialogue without skipping it.
Yeah, I found that out too, once I plugged my mouse in.
I guess arrow key support on the gun select screen and alt or ctrl support for the dialog screens would be another improvement that would be nice.
Thanks for mentioning this game! I think it’s extremely well made. The pacing is good, the rewards are well spread. Even though it’s low-poly, there are still some nifty animations, like the exploding rockets. I personally find the color palette real interesting. Dark backgrounds with orange/red and some vibrant green. The chiptune music is excellent too. Just like Derek said, it’s really polished and it manages to combine the old feel with a smooth modern feel. No complaints at all!
ps. about the low-poly discussion: maybe this has been done over and over again, but it just looks plain awesome. IMHO especially compared with previous posted Iffermoon, which I find damn ugly.
This game is friggin’ epic! Basically like Wolfenstein 3D stylized not to look crappy by today’s standards. :-D
Great, great find - I’m adding this to my permanent indie collection on my HDD. ^^
Ahh, it’s about time that the old style FPS’s start showing up again. Downloading now.
It kind of reminds me what Mare (from Metanet) told me. It’s like going back to a clean slate. Here the graphics aren’t ultra realistic. The designer also has more time to devote to play quality and fun factor. Judging from the comments so far, those who’ve played it had a blast. To me, despite that the 8bit thing is part of the design, it is still like taking a step backand really focusing on gameplay. I hope this style and simplicity comes back to the point where people are making mods for retro looking FPS’s.
I’d say that the biggest reason we don’t see wireframe more is that Wireframe didn’t reign supreme over an era of gaming, and it’s got a number of issues which can lead to playability problems. Flat Shading solves those, but also lacks the rule that sprites had for so long over gaming; we pretty much went from Sprites->Lowpoly with Textures, without a long, transitional flatpoly peroid.
We do see Wireframe/Vector used a lot in arcade style games, because that’s where it had it’s heyday.
am I the only one who thought “I’d love a castlevania with this engine” when going through those windows-with-curtains decorated corridors with the pink ninja enemies? Probably…
Also, the game got pretty slow at some parts of the sewers levels. Other than tha it was a blast.
Why do I keep seeing “Low poly” to describe this game? This game is as low poly as Super Mario Brother is “Low 3D”
This is a raycaster, there isn’t a single polygon in the whole game.
That said, I like that game, but on the NES there was a concept telling developers not to screw with B to run and A to jump, and they should have done the same for this game. Space should be “open/use”, not pause…
Other than this though, this game capture pretty well the spirit of the NES, applies it to something that the NES could never do, and it makes it fun in the process. Kudos!
Jean-Sebastien:
From playing the game a bit and seeing it in motion, I don’t think this is a raycaster. Seems to me it’s just low-poly + low-res textures, with all enemies just being a single texture always facing the player.
As Jean said, the controls are a bit messed… I mean, space opens a menu, ESC quits without confirmation? And no save?
The menu itself is pretty useless, as its only functionality is weapon changing, something that since Wolf3d can be done with the numkeys.
Also, it’s funny how the lack of vertical aiming and a crosshair completely threw me off =p
Besides that, it’s pretty fun and it certainly has the “8-bit” feel, with all those travelling pellets =)
“Here the graphics aren’t ultra realistic.” Is that anything special? Attempted realistic graphics went out years ago. Doom 3 was probably the most graphically advanced game in its time by any objective measure, and it’s clearly not intended to look realistic. It’s also ugly as sin. Most games these days are pretty much blurry (bloom + DOF + motion blur etc. all cranked up) and highly specular. Hell, even the diffuse maps of the textures aren’t realistic.
Much of Shenmue was realistic with subtle stylization, and it succeeded (visually, not commercially). Same for Half-Life 2. But we don’t see that much anymore. My point is that realistic visuals can work, and that they are now the underdog, and that there’s nothing strictly superior about unrealistic ones.
Jean-Sebastien: I’m pretty sure in terms of implementation it’s actually low-poly intended to look like a raycaster; though at first I thought it was the latter, I noticed mip-mapping while I was playing. Checked the Game Maker tutorials and found stuff like this: d3ddrawwall(x1,y1,z1,x2,y2,z2,tex,1,1); Still don’t think the “low-poly” label really applies.
Now that I’ve completed it this is definitely the best planar cartasian grid “3D” shooter I’ve played. Could use a save function. I never died, but I didn’t really want to finsih it it one sitting. And keyboard mapping with sensitivity and acceleration settings for those so-inclined.
I like how the boss battles are traditional FPS-style. No ridiculous trickery or precise sequence of actions to figure out, just straight maneuvering and shooting.
Yeah, it’s actually a bunch of cubes. Tricks that Wolfenstein used like all four sides being the same texture isn’t necessary in Gamemaker, so the author intentionally reproduced these things. I’m a little sad there’s no z-movement in 8bit Killer because I’d have really loved to see what other 8bit graphic things the author would come up with.
For instance, as soon as I saw the trucks (And later, the trains) I absolutely fell in love. They are perfect.
Really digging this game.
Found a bug, though: It’s possible to get stuck on a door in level 1-2 in the first room with 4 doors. You just have to wait for a door to close right in your face and blammo, you’re stuck and have to reset.
Aside from that, 5 thumbs up!
ultim8 likes very much!
This game was pretty awesome. I like the fact that you can see bullets coming and dodge them. Pretty cool
It looks like you guys are right, that might not be raycasting, but even then, if a platformer is made using D3Dsurfaces for the sprites, we don’t call that platformer a low-poly game
Anyway. Semantics I guess for an arbirtrary genre. The game is fun :)
I absolutely love the pixel art. Pixel art for a 3d game? Freakin’ sweet. It just goes to show that 3d games don’t have to be all photorealistic to look good.
Correction. This game is awesome. It’s like the doom guy came back to earth, handed Megaman a gun, and told him to save the world.
phew, beat it all the way through… what a RUSH.
@ Al3xand3r, I was thinking the same thing.
This game is now the 2nd best rated game in TIGdb. Please vote to agree/disagree.
i felt nautious but couldnt stop playing amazing
but i ran into a prety servere bug were the guy with the gold helmet ramed me into a wall i got stuck and had to start from level 1 oh well still kick arse awsome music too
@ Al3xand3r/alspal: Yeah, that part is probably heavily inspired by the GBA Castlevanias. Pretty cool, I say.
I just want to see more… More people should make stuff like this. Maybe add melee weapons. Or go the full length and make an ultima underworld style game, or an Exhumed/Powerslave inspired one, or add procedurally generated levels and make a dungeon crawler or…
Man, I was making a low-res FPS… Oh well.
Quite a nice little game! Kept me entertained from start to finish, although I’d probably have given up if it was longer.
Very nice pixel graphics, and the levels were relatively unconfusing for being Wolfensteinish. Really good music too.
How do you get out of the beginning room? I know I’m an idiot but I’ve been staring at it for 30 minutes now, and I can’t get out! Help?
@cHIP : Open doors (ie : grayish recessed walls) with alt or the 2nd mouse button.
Thanks, now on to enjoying 8BK!
I’ll quote myself cactus:
“I just want to see more… More people should make stuff like this.”
Please.
I really really like this game! Very fun, and I keep coming back to it to get further in.
Man, the music in this is really great. I love it.
@Alexander, in response of the message:
“am I the only one who thought “I’d love a castlevania with this engine” when going through those windows-with-curtains decorated corridors with the pink ninja enemies? Probably…”
Someone attempted something similar, years ago. He first created a remake/remix of the first Castlevania game, Castlevania Quest, then he remade it with the same levels in 3D, low-res textures and such. The official site is http://horrorquest.altervista.org/, and if you search for “Castlevania Quest Horror” you’ll find a Youtube video too. With the exception of the horrid character models, the game looks cool, but unfortunately it’s killed by absurd camera, and with the controls being absolute and not relative to the character… An experiment which didn’t go well, his 2D fangames are much better.
Haha, pretty good, not much worse than Konami’s own 3D castlevanias ;P
I was more thinking along the lines of a continuous world & melee weapons & rpg stats add-on for 8bit Killer than a third person platform game. Sort of like those old first person dungeon crawlers but with fps controls and the CV theme I guess.
Still, that’s neat for a first attempt, I hope he keeps it up, though there don’t seem to be any recent updates on his website.
Back on the subject of 8-Bit Killer, two things bugged me a lot:
Great game anyway, if really too slow-paced at times. The ability to save at least after a boss battle wouldn’t have hurt, but it’d make the game too easy.